To Mayor Gygi: Will you speak out against Snowbird now? Or resign please?

Written By: admin - Aug• 24•16

Mayor Gary Gygi,


Protect & Preserve AF Canyon FB alert on BM video

Mayor Gygi, you have some responsibility here because of your tacit support of Snowbird's secretive operations.  Will you now disavow Snowbird and its continuing efforts to impose on our American Fork Canyon and water supply?  Remember your comments at AF High School one year ago, July 1, 2015…?

http://www.cedarhillscitizens.org/video-9-current-former-ch-council-members-attend-preserve-protect-af-canyon-meeting-at-afhs/

 

You’ve NEVER publicly chastised Snowbird for their abuse of the public disclosure process, and fought in behalf of The People you are supposed to protect and serve.  Will you do so now?  Mayor Gygi, to whom is your allegiance; the greedy Snowbird owners or the good folks living in Cedar Hills?  Please call for Snowbird to immediately and proactively clean up its own toxic mine tailings and Tibble Fork Reservoir bed, before it’s too late.  

If not, maybe it is time for you to reconsider the calls for your resignation.

Ken Cromar signature blue 2 med

 

Ken Cromar – researcher for 

Cedar Hills Citizens for Responsible Government

former elected Cedar Hills Councilman (1994 to 2000)

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NOTE:  The email was CC'd to the CH Council, City Manager and following Mayors & Councils and news outlets :

David Bunker <dbunker@cedarhills.org>, Rob Crawley <rcrawley@cedarhills.org>, Ben Bailey <bbailey@cedarhills.org>, Daniel Zappala <dzappala@cedarhills.org>, Mike Geddes <mgeddes@cedarhills.org>, Jenney Rees <jjreejrees@cedarhills.org>, David CH attorney Shaw <dshaw@kmclaw.com>, Mark Allen <markstewartallen@gmail.com>, Mayors & Councils Utah County <mayor@emcity.org>, Don Watkins <dwatkins@alpinecity.org>, mayor@afcity.net, Brad Frost <bradfrostaf@gmail.com>, cwhitehead@afcity.net, kbarnes@afcity.net, carltonbowen4afcity@gmail.com, rob@voteshelton.com, jshorter@afcity.net, Benjamin Wood <bwood@sltrib.com>, nmathews@sltrib.com, cimaron@sltrib.com, ldavidson@sltrib.com, Deseret <news@ksl.com>, jpage@desnews.com, David Daily Herald <bwilliams@heraldextra.com>, Scott Tittrington <stittrington@heraldextra.com>, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@gmail.com>, KSL 5 – Richard Piatt <rpiatt@ksl.com>

 

 

Councilman Rob Crawley Blog: “More On the Alcohol Issue”

Written By: admin - Jul• 29•16

 

Friday, July 29, 2016

"More On the Alcohol Issue"


Last week at the city council meeting, there was an agenda item #15 of 20 agenda items that was listed as "Review/Action to amend the Cedar Hills Grill Concession Agreement". This ammendment to the agreement changes the wording on the concessions contract with Sumting Asian LCC from "Tenant may not serve alcohol on the premises" to "Tenant may serve alcohol on the premises".  Rob Crawley blog pic

With this small change in wording, the city rec center grill will now be serving alcohol to the general public. Also, this changes the golf course to where golfers now have the stamp of approval of the city to drink alcohol on the golf course and can buy it from the grill. 

The city council voted 4-1 to approve this change with my vote as the dissenting vote. The interesting thing about this item is there was not a single resident comment before the vote. There are several residents that said that they wanted to be there if they only knew the change was about alcohol. Although the main topic was alcohol, the word alcohol is not mentioned in the agenda until page 27. It is clear that the subject of alcohol should have been mentioned in the agenda. Here is the link to the agenda:

http://www.cedarhills.org/node/4578

 

For historical perspective, back in 2001 when the city was trying to decide whether to issue a revenue bond to finance the golf course, Mayor Sears circulated a flyer listing several inaccuracies that had been communicated to residents. One of those inaccuracies was titled, "Alochol and Sunday Operation". He said "City ownership of the course is the only way to insure control of hours of operation, types of beverages sold or other activities at the golf course." Those that were against alcohol being sold at the course were assured that the city would not sell alcohol. This is one of the reasons why it has been 15 years since this vote until it has finally been approved to sell alcohol at the golf course.

For the complete Blog post, please see…  http://cedarhillsrob.blogspot.com/

 

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Mayor Gygi responds on vote for “Alcohol” – sort of…

Written By: admin - Jul• 28•16

Saturday July 23, 2016 – Mayor Gary Gygi responded to CHCRG email  (see previous CHCRG post) "CHCRG to Mayor Gary Gygi – "Is it True?" – ALCOHOL sales were approved for the Golf Clubhouse?

Mayor Gygi wrote:

Mr. Cromar, thank you for your interest in our city.  I will answer your questions but feel free to reach out to the city manager or city attorney for more information.  Yes, the city council did vote to approve the third party vendor who runs the grill to be able to sell beer in the grill by a 4 to 1 vote, Mr. Crawley voted against it.  I do not write the agendas for the council meetings, a staff member writes the agenda language.  I do know that some people are against alcohol at the golf course and grill and some people are for it.  I did step out of the meeting to take care of some other city business, there was a house in Cedar Hills that recently almost burned down, the father rushed in to save his son and both were injured but alive.  The fire chiefs were meeting with the father and his wife, they invited me and I was gone for about 30 minutes.  The rest of your questions relate to my feelings on the matter, I am not in favor of what the council did, I would not have voted for this if I were to have voted.  As you know, the mayor only votes to break a tie which this vote was not.  I have stated publicly that I don't think the city should ever get a liquor license and sell alcohol in the rec center.  The ordinance that was passed is not allowing Cedar Hills city to sell the beer but I am still not in favor of it.  I don't believe much revenue if any at all will go to the city, the revenue goes to the grill vendor but one could make the argument that the city may attract more golfers who like to have a beer after golfing.  People that were in favor of the vote presume that all drinkers are responsible which is not true, those who were against it presume that all those who drink beer are not responsible and this is not true either.  Finally I believe that you know what your rights are and actions available to you are now that the council has acted.

Sincerely,

-Gary

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CHCRG Head Researcher Ken Cromar replied to Mayor Gygi…

From: Ken Cromar

Subject: Mayor Gygi deceives CH Residents / promotes alcohol… Re: Is it true? – ALCOHOL sales were approved for the golf clubhouse grill on a 4 to 1 vote Tuesday?

Date: July 25, 2016 at 9:01:42 AM MDT

To: Gary Gygi <ggygi@cedarhills.org>

Cc: Rob Crawley <rcrawley@cedarhills.org>, Jenney Rees <jrees@cedarhills.org>, Daniel Zappala <dzappala@cedarhills.org>, Mike Geddes <mgeddes@cedarhills.org>, Ben Bailey <bbailey@cedarhills.org>, David Bunker <DBunker@cedarhills.org>, and Friends of CH and other CHCRG members, and some Press

 

Mayor Gygi,

Thanks for your response [above], but unfortunately, you failed to answer some key questions:

1.)  Did you write up the July 19th Council agenda doc?  If not, who did please?

As you know Mayor, you are responsible for the Agenda, regardless of who may draft it for you.  Why are you throwing some unnamed city employee under the bus?  This is your responsibility.  You didn’t do your job.  Own it.  

 

2.)  Was this omission of the subject of “Alcohol” done to hide or deceive the public regarding this important community issue?

Whether you take responsibility for your actions or not, the result is the same — an attempt to put alcohol in at the Family Rec Center — without CH residents knowing it was on your agenda.  You deceived CH residents when you left “Alcohol” out of the Agenda #15 description, thus secretly promoted alcohol at our “Family" facility.

 

3.)  Would you like to see this action repaired with a fully informed Public?

Do you want to take responsibility for your leadership and public disclosure fail, will you STOP the contract process before it gets signed, and start the public process over?  Yes or no?

 

City Council members, you too should have known better.  Reportedly Councilman Crawley and City Manger David Bunker encouraged the Council to table this issue until properly noticed to the public.  You went ahead and voted for this anyway.  This is not ethically defensible.  But, good news!  it’s not too late.  You can still fix this error.  Please be honest with CH residents.  Please be fair.  Start the process over and be responsible.  If you don’t, please consider this headline:

Mayor Gygi deceives public, allows Council to secretly vote on Alcohol at our Family Rec Center, endangers our children.

 

Mayor, in conclusion, your email response is unsatisfactory.  It is obviously duplicitous of you to write, "I have stated publicly that I don't think the city should ever get a liquor license and sell alcohol in the rec center.”  when you simultaneously facilitate alcohol at what was supposed to be the  FAMILY REC CENTER without informing CH residents.  

Please stop insulting the public, own and fix this error immediately.

Sincerely,

Ken Cromar signature blue 2 med

Ken Cromar – researcher for 

Cedar Hills Citizens for Responsible Government

former elected Cedar Hills Councilman 1994-2000

 

 

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CHCRG to Mayor Gygi – “Is it true? – ALCOHOL sales were approved for the golf clubhouse?”

Written By: admin - Jul• 25•16

 

Friday, July 22, 2016

 

Mayor Gygi,

It has come to my attention that at Tuesday, July 19th Council meeting that ALCOHOL sales were approved for the grill on a 4 to 1 vote.  

Would you kindly answer these questions:

Is the above true?

Did this action take place under Agenda item #15 which reads, “Review/Action to Amend the Cedar Hills Grill Concession Agreement”?  (see copy below)

Did you write up the July 19th Council agenda doc?  If not, who did please?

Were you aware of the community are deeply concerned about alcohol at the golf course and grill?  (Please see May 2001 flyer, the third item “ALCOHOL AND SUNDAY OPERATION" in the attached flyer used by then Mayor Sears and Council to persuade the community to support the push to buy the golf course.)

If you were aware of public interest on this issue, why would the main subject — ALCOHOL — not be included in the Agenda item #15 subject description?

Was this omission of the subject of “Alcohol” done to hide or deceive the public regarding this important community issue?

Is it true that just prior item #15 was discussed by the Council, you left?  And returned right after the vote?

Can you understand why so many of us have so little trust in our local government with it’s constant drip, drip, drip of evolving deceit and dishonesty?

Would you like to see this action repaired with a fully informed Public?

Would you like to be held personally responsible for any golf course / clubhouse alcohol related deaths?

Will you commit to do all in your power to stop this action until a proper Public notification can be made, public comment taken and a new vote Council taken please?

If so, thank you.  If not, why not, please?

Please respond briefly and directly, at your earliest convenience.  The CC’d Council members may also add their answers by separate email if desired.

Sincerely,

Ken Cromar signature blue 2 med

 

Ken Cromar – researcher for 

Cedar Hills Citizens for Responsible Government

former elected Cedar Hills Councilman

Mayor Sear golf flyer May 2001.w delivery note A

 

 

 

July 19, 2016 Council Agenda screenshot

 

Councilman Crawley Blog: “Golf Course Grill Now Allowed To Sell Alcohol”

Written By: admin - Jul• 25•16

 

Friday, July 22, 2016 – Councilman Rob Crawley posted on his Cedar Hills blog the following announcement:

 

On Tuesday the City Council voted to amend the Cedar Hills Concessions Agreement to allow alcohol sales in our rec center.  There was a good debate among City Council members, but no public comment.  The vote was 4 to 1 in favor of allowing the sale of alcohol at the grill.

I was disappointed that fewer residents were not aware of this issue.  I was in charge of the meeting in the absence of the Mayor and I strongly encouraged the Council to postpone a vote until it was noticed in a manner that informed the public regarding the true nature of the change.  It was listed as item number 15 in the agenda as "Review/Action to Amend the Cedar Hills Grill Concessions Agreement".  There was no reference to alcohol that could have informed the residents of the nature of the change in the agreement.  Unfortunately very few residents were aware of such an important topic early enough before the meeting to allow them time to make it to the meeting.  I was disappointed that it passed, but even more disappointed that it passed under the radar of most residents.

http://cedarhillsrob.blogspot.com/

 

 

 

 

First Amendment Abuse: Provo police stop 80-year-old resident

Written By: admin - Jul• 22•16

Libertas Institute logo Libertas Institute -July 19 2016 report

An elder resident of Provo recently attempted to collect peitition sigantures on public proerty, working to put the "BRT: public transtit funding project on the ballot for the public to vote on.  Police arrived and forced im to leave the (public) property, violating his rights.  Watch Nichelle's video for the details.

For more info on this and other Libertas Institute highlighted subjects, please see…

https://www.facebook.com/libertasutah/videos/1199233813443607/?mc_cid=5cdf2954a4&mc_eid=b8711e1cf9

Cedar Hills has had similar First Amendment abuses by government officials over citizens simply exercising their Constitutionally acknowledged and protected rights.  In growing numbers, government officials have grown ignorant to the meaning of their Oath of Office to protect and defend the Constitutions of the US and State of Utah.  The result is too often abuse of power against the rights of individual they ironically promised to protect against the tyranny of the majority.

 

See other posts regarding First Amendment abuse in Cedar Hills see various report links at…

Nationally Syndicated talk show hosts:  Call for CH Mayor Gygi's RESIGNATION

http://www.cedarhillscitizens.org/nationally-syndicated-talk-show-hosts-call-for-ch-mayor-gygis-immediate-resignation/

 

CH Attorney Fail led to $233,000 legal fees in 2013

Written By: admin - Jul• 22•16

April 18, 2016 – Legal billing records were sought via email when a City Council report on March 1st showed huge increases in legal expenses of $154,558 in 2012 and $233,868 in 2013.  

This is important because during 2012 and 2013, Mayor Gygi and many Cedar Hills Councilmembers – particularly Council member Jenney Rees in her posts and city PR reports – falsely declared that Cedar Hills Citizens for Responsible Government's request for public records was mostly responsible for such high legal bills.  

The Council was constantly reminded that,  1.)  CHCRG did not have a VOTE on how the City spends its money, and  2.) because the simple fulfillment of the GRAMA requests — which is what the State Records Committee required of the City anyway — was an unnecessary legal expense if GRAMA law had been simply been obeyed.

The following email was sent to Councilman Rob Crawley, and CC'd to City Attorney David Shaw, seeking his help obtaining billing legal records and internal Council investigation….

 

city-council-agenda-2016-03-01 w finance Powerpoint n legal.1

April 18, 2016

Councilman Crawley,

In looking over the Power-Point slides from the finance presentation by Charl on March 1, 2013 CH Council Meeting, I found this image above.  (The file is online and available at  http://www.cedarhills.org/sites/default/files/agendas/city-council-agenda-2016-03-01.pdf – was it slide #11?)

The legal fees for 2013 seem exorbitant at $233,868 under then attorney Eric Johnson.  No doubt this caught your attention?  Can you explain for me the breakdown on legal fee needs that could rack up such high numbers please?  More abuse of other CH residents with maligning of character libel by the attorney as with the $154,558 in 2012?  Your help understanding this matter would be appreciated.

I've CC'd the current attorney Mr. Shaw, on the chance he may already have that information at hand to save your research time.

Thank you!

Ken Cromar – researcher for 

Cedar Hills Citizens for Responsible Government

former elected Cedar Hills Councilman

 

A response to this request did not come forward. A follow up email reminder was sent July 8, 2016, and requested again via phone yesterday.  A response was promised.

 

Please see February 13, 2013 CHCRG post on the subject reported by Salt Lake Tribune …  

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"CH lawyer blames his high legal bill on citizen group"

http://www.cedarhillscitizens.org/ch-lawyer-blames-his-high-legal-bill-on-citizen-group/

 

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COUNCILMAN CRAWLEY BLOG: Citizens Must Hold Representatives Accountable

Written By: admin - Apr• 25•16

A link to the Councilman Rob Crawwley's blog article was included on pg 3 of the Cedar Hills April Newsletter http://www.cedarhills.org/newsletter-2016-04.  The article  from http://cedarhillsrob.blogspot.com is included here:  Rob Crawley blog pic

 

“Corruption” and “Government” are two words that seem to go hand in hand. 

This has been true since the beginning of time.  Some say that this is only true for national politics.  However, as much as I would like to believe that our state, county or city leaders are exempt from wrongdoing, experience has shown that all levels of government are susceptible to inappropriate actions.  It is the duty of all residents to maintain a healthy skepticism of those in office in order to help those serving remain true servants of the people rather than servants of themselves or beholden to a cause that may be contrary to the will of the people.

I recently read an article about the Israeli prime minister from 2006-2009 named Ehud Olmert.  While he was mayor of Jerusalem he accepted a large bribe and will now be in jail for nearly two years.  This person was the equivalent of the United States President for the country of Israel.  See article here:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-02-16/from-israeli-prime-minister-to-prisoner

It is interesting to note that the first law regarding bribery that we have on record was written for the Israeli people by Moses nearly 3,500 years ago.  Following is the text of this law written in Deuteronomy 16:18-19:

Judges and officers shalt thou make thee in all thy gates, which the Lord thy God giveth thee, throughout thy tribes: and they shall judge the people with just judgment.

 Thou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous

 

This doesn’t say that only bad people take gifts.  It says that the wise and the righteous are compromised by gifts.

Recently there has been a large uproar in Northern Utah County due to Snowbird trying to expand their operations in the Mineral Basin and Mary-Ellen Gulch up American Fork Canyon.  They own a lot of land up there and were working on doing a land swap with the US Forrest Service to complete the footprint they wanted.  Last summer this land swap plan was abandoned by Snowbird, but they are still trying to get a permit for expansion into the areas they own.

Although this may be something that many residents of Utah County are against, Snowbird does own the property and have certain rights.  However, with the rights of ownership also come certain obligations.  There are hundreds of abandoned mines on their property and their property is part of the watershed that feeds into American Fork River that supplies irrigation and drinking water to a large area of Northern Utah County, including Cedar Hills which uses a portion of this water to feed our pressurized irrigation system.  This watershed also drains water into our underground water supply, which supplies the wells in the city that provide drinking water to our residents.  There is a risk that if Snowbird does not manage its mine tailings responsibly, the water quality could be compromised.

The problem that has arisen is Snowbird has given many “gifts” to people that are in positions of trust in our state, county and city.  There have been trips to Europe given to mayors, county commissioners, and other influential people with their wives.  There have been helicopter rides given.  There have been tickets to black tie events with celebrities.  There have been large campaign donations.  There have been free ski passes given.

We have laws today, 3,500 years after the law cited above, that also limit bribes and gifts for elected officials.  The law specifies that anything over $50 in value is not allowed without proper disclosure of the gift.  Although many have received benefits from Snowbird, there has been very little proper disclosure of these items.

All mayors, city council members, county commissioners, governors, legislators etc. should be very careful not only to avoid accepting anything of value from those that our decisions and actions may affect, but we should avoid the appearance of taking anything from any groups that our decisions may have influence over.

May I suggest that at least once a year (maybe in January) we ask all elected officials to report in a city council meeting all of the gifts or benefits they were given during the past year just so that we go beyond what the law says and stay as far away from the cliff as we can be as a city.  I would suggest that the residents demand this from their elected officials not only to protect the city from potential conflicts of interest, but to help elected officials avoid temptation to take gifts or benefits that may be inappropriate.

 

http://cedarhillsrob.blogspot.com

 

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See related CHCRG posts:

 

Three for three – 2012 Utah County Commissioners charged or under investigation

Who paid for Utah elected officials involved with Mountain Accord to go on private jet?

Doc show that CH mayor Gary Gygi was scheduled to go to Switzerland on same trip but withdrew just prior, but faces ongoing questions by Preserve & Protect American Fork Canyon supporters regarding his involvement with Snowbird and missing related GRAMA requested records …  http://www.cedarhillscitizens.org/preserve-protect-af-canyon-to-mayor-gygi-please-answer-questions-fulfill-grama-requests/

http://www.cedarhillscitizens.org/three-for-three-utah-county-commissioners-charged-or-under-investigation/

 

VIDEO:  9 current & former CH Council members attend Preserve & Protect AF Canyon meeting at AFHS

http://www.cedarhillscitizens.org/video-9-current-former-ch-council-members-attend-preserve-protect-af-canyon-meeting-at-afhs/

 

INVITATION to CH Mayor Gygi:  Demonstrate your allegiance to CH's desires to preserve & protect AF Canyon from Snowbird

http://www.cedarhillscitizens.org/invitation-to-ch-mayor-gygi-demonstrate-your-allegiance-to-chs-desires-to-preserve-protect-af-canyon-from-snowbird/

 

 

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CH GOP Caucus results Ted CRUZ 79% with Trump 3rd place – Dems vote for Sanders

Written By: admin - Apr• 25•16

CEDAR HILLS results of Republican Precinct votes for March 22, 2016 were as follows:

Total GOP votes in Cedar Hills = 1,076


   TED CRUZ  =  845     79%


   John Kasich = 121      11%


   Donald Trump = 110   10%

 

Statewide the Utah Republican Party caucus vote totals resulted in ALL 40 delegate votes to TED CRUZ, as follows…

Utah Caucus results Mar 22 2016 Republicans AP
CH01 = 160 votes
Cruz 129  80%
Kasich 17
Trump 14

 

CH02 = 226 votes
169 Cruz  75%
37 Kasich
20 Trump

 

CH03 = 176 votes
141 Cruz  80%
20 Trump
15 Kasich 

 

CH04 = 270 votes
211 Cruz  78%
31 Trump
28 Kasich

 

CH05 is approximate…  = 244 votes
Cruz 195  80%
Trump 25
Kasich 24

(Totals provided by Angela Johnson Precinct Chair – With percentage calculations by Ken Cromar)

 


The Democrat Party caucus results in Utah

Though requested from State Dem office, the results for Democrat Party in CH was not available.  CNN reported Utah County result totals as 85% for Bernie Sanders and 14% for Hillary Clinton.  The 33 delegate votes went 27 to Sanders and 6 to Clinton.   http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ut/Dem

Statewide the Utah Democrat Party caucus vote totals were as follows…

Utah Caucus results Mar 22 2016 Dems AP
 

If anyone can provide the Democrat Party results for CH, please send them to info@cedarhillscitizens.org.  Thanks.

 

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TIMP TIMES: Cromar Calls for Gygi to Resign

Written By: admin - Apr• 18•16

 

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Cromar Calls for Gygi to Resign

March 22, 2016  –  By Harlow Clark 

During the February 16 council meeting, as part of public comment, Ken Cromar of Cedar Hills Citizens for Responsible Government cited the October 18 Golf Course Finance Committee meeting as an example of Mayor Gary Gygi’s so called abuse of power.  (see CH Mayor Gary Gygi vs. First Amendemtn and Utah Open Public Meetings Law )

In public comment two weeks later on March 1, Cromar brought up the meeting again.

Cromar said he appreciated the council’s change in the previous meeting to the ordinance regarding photography and recordings of public meetings because that ordinance “had caused much abuse, none of which has been apologized for.”  (see STATEMENT: Ken & Barbara Cromar: Mayor harassed & bullied us with illegal Ordinance )

He said he was bringing the matter up because the city’s Facebook chatroom had been humming and smoking with the issue all day, and a lot of residents had a false impression of how hostile the crowd had been to him that night, hostile enough that a member of the city council called the police to protect him.

Cromar invited the mayor to make an apology.

The mayor demurred, “You know this is not a time for dialogue. You’re welcome to come speak with me any time and we can have that discussion.”   Timp Times C Calls 4 Gygi to Resign - 2016 Mar 22

“Are you sure there’s nothing that you’d like to say, Mayor, to correct the record?” asked Cromar.  “Is there anything that you’d choose to write by way of a letter of apology, anything that you’d do, that you’d—there’s so many Boy Scouts that came into this room and think that their mayor was actually protecting the city, and indeed the mayor was actually breaking his constitutional oath.  Is there anything you’d care to say?” Cromar added.

“This is your time, not my time,” the mayor said.

For the lack of apology, Cromar said, “Therefore, I will add my voice to that of Curt Crosby and Sam Bushman who have asked for your resignation.  (see ON AIR: Radio host call for CH Mayor resignation)  Mayor, you are unfit for this position.  You have demonstrated immense capacity for abuse of power, for misstating issues, for not documenting issues, for misrepresenting other people’s positions  (see Mrs. Smart to Mayor Gygi: "…You don't have any integrity" – MELTDOWN ), and I would be grateful if you would do this community a favor and allow room for a mayor who actually will serve the citizens of this community.  Thank you for your time.”

“Thank you very much, always a pleasure,” Gygi replied, turning his attention to reports from council members.

Toward the end of the reports, Gygi said, “Mr. Cromar, I’ve been thinking about what you said.”  He invited Cromar to come and see him some Thursday morning, without recording equipment, and talk about areas where each thinks they are owed an apology.  “Maybe we can come to a meeting of minds,” Gygi added.

Cromar made a counter offer, a debate for two hours on the radio, so it would be documented.  “You’ve certainly mis-represented me and who I am,” Cromar said, adding, “You don’t have the courage to stand up for what you think is right.” (see xxx)

“Public comment’s over, Mr. Cromar,” stated Gygi.

“Do you reject the offer?” asked Cromar.

“There is no way I’m ever going on your little radio show ever,” the mayor said.

“You owe this community a huge apology, sir,” Cromar said to the mayor, when told again that his time was up, “way up”.

“Likewise,” the mayor replied.

Following his report, Council Member Rob Crawley read a statement about free speech and the constitution, saying he thought the city never should have had restrictions on filming.  He offered Cromar a personal apology for anything he had done to harass Cromar.  (see CH Councilman Crawley reads Official APOLOGY Statement )

Mayor Gygi replied with “some background on the ordinance we changed,” saying it was crafted when the council was meeting in the old fire station, in a cramped room, and the city wanted to make sure people could get out of the room in an emergency without cameras begin in the way.  


(Harlow Clark's article is not available on-line, but transcribed here.  Timpanogos Times is a bi-monthly FREE newspaper available at Macey's and other outlets.)

 

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